The Two Reference Guitars Used For
All Testing & Comparisons.
Fender
Custom Shop
David
Gilmour Signature Series Black Strat's |
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Guitar #1 |
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| Version /
Style: |
Relic |
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| Production
Date: |
October 1,
2008 |
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| Serial
Number: |
R43867 |
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Guitar #2 |
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| Version / Style: |
NOS |
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| Production
Date: |
September
30, 2008 |
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| Serial
Number: |
R43281 |
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Most of you are here because
of
your interest in the Gilmour Black Strat and our
version of the fully loaded Black
Strat pickguard assembly. I'm sure many of
you wonder as to the authenticity or similarity
of our pickguard assembly in comparison to the Fender Custom Shop
versions. In other words, will our complete
pickguard assembly produce the same tones as a
Fender Custom Shop version of the Gilmour Black
Strat? Below you will find individual pickup resistance
value readings taken from two of the Fender
Custom Shop Gilmour Signature Series Black
Strat's, the Relic and the NOS version. Pickup
DC resistance values were taken from both of
these guitar pickguard assemblies at each of the
7 unique pickup selections. Physical
characteristics of each pickup were noted as
well for comparison.
There is a some speculation
as to exactly which pickups are installed in the
Fender Custom Shop Gilmour Strat, but now, based
on our investigative work along with
all published data it is now quite conclusive as
we have shown below that the pickups installed
in the Fender Custom Shop Gilmour Strat are in
fact the same pickups or have the same
characteristics or tonal character as those we use in our complete pickguard assemblies.
As the specifications were
published at the introduction of the Gilmour
Strat it was stated that a custom hand-wound Fat
'50s neck pickup was installed in the neck
position and a Custom Shop '69 pickup was
installed in the middle position, but later on
it was noticed that specifications became a
little more vague and were updated in most
advertisements as to the exactness of which
pickups were installed. It is now stated that
the pickup installed in the neck position is a
"Custom Hand-Wound Fat '50s" pickup and the
middle pickup is simply stated as "Custom
Wound". The bridge pickup is no mystery, it is
published as a Seymour Duncan SSL-5. However,
this particular SSL-5 pickup in the Fender
Custom Shop Gilmour Strat is built around the
architecture of the SSL-1C with it being
constructed using a keyed black bottom flatwork
as opposed to the modern rectangular and rounded
end bottom flatwork that you will find in all
retail SSL-5's. One of the reasons Seymour
Duncan manufactures the current retail version
of the SSL-5 with rectangular and rounded end
bottom flatwork is that it allows the pickup to
mounted in either direction for appropriate pole
piece stagger positioning for left or right
handed players. The SSL-1C is what is installed
in Gilmour's Strat and Fender wanted the visual
effect to be correct and is strictly a right
handed pickup with the keyed bottom flatwork.
The SSL-1C is a custom wound version of the
SSL-1 ("C" means custom) which has increased
output and is the predecessor to the SSL-5.
Identification markings on the Fender Custom
Shop Gilmour Strat SSL-5 bridge pickup has both
identifiers where it says "SSL-1C DG" pressed
into the pickups bottom flatwork along with a
sticker tag that reads "SSL-5". All resistance
readings we've performed confirm it is a SSL-5
at heart with the typical beveled and staggered
Alnico V pole pieces.
UPDATE January 17, 2012. We now have a
limited supply of these SSL-1C DG pickups
available for installation in our complete
pickguard assemblies. The middle pickup in the
Fender Custom Shop Gilmour Strat has
non-beveled, staggered Alnico V pole pieces and
the typical dark wire windings indicative of a
Custom Shop '69 pickup and all resistance and
tone comparisons indicate the same as well.
It is built using a black bottom flatwork piece instead of the typical grey
flatwork you will find in a retail package of the
Custom Shop '69 pickup set. You won't find a
black bottom flatwork Custom Shop '69 in any
retail packaging, it only comes with Custom Shop
guitars. The differences are that the Custom
Shop version is said to be hand wound as opposed
to the production Custom '69s that are machine
wound. However they are wound to the same target
DC resistance value.
The neck pickup in the Fender
Custom Shop Gilmour Strat has hand beveled,
staggered Alnico V
pole pieces and the typical bright Formvar wire windings
indicative of a Custom Shop Fat '50s pickup and
all resistance and tone comparisons indicate the same
as well. The differences are that the Custom
Shop version is said to be hand wound as opposed
to the production Fat '50s that are machine
wound. However they are wound to the same target
DC resistance value.
Below are pickup resistance value
comparison between the two Fender Custom Shop
Gilmour Strat's and our custom Black Strat
pickguard assembly. Based on all test
results and audio comparison the pickups are
essentially the same. We averaged 25 of
our Black Strat complete pickguard assemblies to
arrive at the figures in the
"Our
Black Strat Pickguard Assembly"
column
below. The resistance readings for Fender's was
taken from a Relic version and NOS version of the Custom
Shop Gilmour Black Strat. By looking at
the table towards the very bottom of this page
you can get an idea of how much variance you
will find in a given pickup type. Example: You
can see that a given Seymour Duncan SSL-5 can
reveal a resistance reading of up to 13.65k and
as low as 12.61k which gives a variance as much
as 1040 ohms (1.04k) between different samples
of the same pickup. Seymour Duncan advertises
the SSL-5 to have resistance value of 12.9k. So just because our
resistance readings may not compare exactly the
same as Fender's, which would be virtually
impossible, you can see how they are extremely
close with the averages are that we have
compiled. If we were able to average 25 of
the Fender Custom Shop Gilmour Strat's pickup readings we might find
those averages become even closer to our averages, but
since we only have two of the Fender Custom Shop
Gilmour Strat's to perform our comparisons we
cannot compile averages and have to rely on direct
readings, so we have to make due with a single
reference point of the data presented with the
two guitars and use those for our base points of
reference.
With the NOS Strat all of the
accessories, pickup covers, knobs, switch tip,
tremolo arm tip and tremolo cover plate are a
custom aged parchment. The tint color is
an ever so slightly tinted from the base color
of parchment, almost like a very slight smoky
color added to the base color. It is very subtle
but noticeable when you compare a stock
parchment pickup cover along side one of the
custom aged ones.
With the RELIC Strat the
pickup covers are relic'd and aged parchment.
Where the knobs are relic'd aged white with the
green letters and numbers. The tremolo arm
tip and switch tip are both aged white.
One difference we found
between the Relic and NOS was in the wiring
where the NOS did not have the ground wire
joining each of the three potentiometers.
I think the guy doing the wiring simply forgot,
since this is a characteristic ground of all
Strat wiring.
We hope with all this information
it will help you make an informed decision and
understand the detail we put forth to make sure
you receive a complete Gilmour style Black Strat
pickguard assembly that will undoubtedly
reproduce the Gilmour tone you are in search
of...
Pickup Comparison Chart
Resistance Readings Taken Directly From
The Output Jack Connections
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Pickup
Selection(s) |
Fender's
Gilmour
Relic
Strat |
Fender's
Gilmour
NOS
Strat |
Our
Black Strat Pickguard Assembly
Avg. of
25 Assemblies |
| SSL-5 (Bridge) |
12.57k |
13.28k |
12.89k |
| Custom Shop
'69 (Middle) |
5.24k |
5.32k |
5.44k |
| Custom Shop Fat
'50s (Neck) |
6.14k |
6.12k |
6.15k |
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Combination Pickup Selections |
| Bridge + Middle |
3.77k |
3.85k |
3.89k |
| Neck + Middle |
2.87k |
2.88k |
2.92k |
| Bridge + Neck |
4.21k |
4.25k |
4.24k |
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Bridge + Middle + Neck |
2.36k |
2.39k |
2.41k |
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Above: Close-up photograph of the
Fender Custom Shop
David Gilmour Relic Black Strat pickguard
assembly electronics wiring.

Above: Close-up photograph of
OverDrive
Custom Guitar Works Black Strat
pickguard assembly electronics wiring.

Above: Photograph of the Fender
Custom Shop David Gilmour Relic Black Strat pickguard
assembly back side.
Notice the copper foil shielding on the
pickguard in
the control region only. All future
production of our Acrylic pickguards once we
deplete our current stock will have the exact
same copper foil shielding in the control region
only. This will be noted on the complete
pickguard assembly page (#4035)
once we transition to our new pickguard stock.
It will be a while for the 11 hole pickguards
since we still have a lot of them in stock with
the full coverage aluminum foil shielding,
but now that the vintage 8 hole pickguards
are available once again they are shielded as
illustrated above.
A lot of customer feedback has told us that they
want their pickguards shielded in the same manor
as Gilmour's as well as how Fender is shielding
their Gilmour Signature series Black Strat's
pickguards. We listened to our customers
feedback and have adjusted our manufacturing of
these pickguards to represent them authentically
to the originals.

Above: Close-up photograph of the Fender Custom
Shop bridge pickup. Notice the "SSL-1C DG" as
pressed into the bottom flatwork and the sticker that
indicates an SSL-5 with a production date of
August 22, 2008 ( "20080822" ).

The Fender Custom Shop David Gilmour Relic Black
Strat's Green Lettered / Numbered control knobs
in comparison with our
customized knobs. Our knobs are in the upper
portion where they are simply resting on the
pickguard for comparison with Fender's knobs.
We've identified the green lettering color and
have been able to reproduce it exactly as you
would find them on a Fender Custom Shop Gilmour
Black Strat.
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All Information
Below Was Obtained From Our Complete Black Strat Pickguard
Assemblies
The testing results
in the table below
were obtained from February through
May of 2010.
Below are resistance readings taken
from each of the 7 unique pickup selection options from
the documented testing
results of 25 of our Black Strat fully
loaded pickguard assemblies. Averages for each
pickup selection is listed in
Blue at the
bottom. We also have listed the highest
resistance reading we encountered in
Red, the
lowest resistance reading in
Green and the
amount of variance of resistance between the
highest and lowest readings in
White. We also list the
manufacturer's resistance rating for each of
the three different pickups.
The resistance values in
the table below were obtained at
the output jack connections with the volume and tone
control settings at 10, so these values will
be slightly lower than resistance values
taken from an individual uninstalled pickup.
I did not want to disassemble the original
Custom Shop Gilmour Strat electronics to obtain direct
resistance readings from each individual
pickup, so I figured it was most appropriate
to compare our complete pickguard assemblies
with the Custom Shop Gilmour Strat by the
same method at the output jack connections. This
would give you comparatively similar
results. Also, keep in mind that you
could take a box of 250k Ohm potentiometers
and check each of their resistance
characteristics and find that they may vary
as much as 100k from one another since most
potentiometers have a tolerance of 20% and
this variance will alter the resistance
readings obtained from the output jack
connections for the pickups. I've seen
a lot of the Fender branded CTS
potentiometers vary as much 30% where as the
CTS potentiometers I use in my assemblies
average about 10% variance from
specification. I find the average resistance
readings of the CTS potentiometers I use to
be in the range of 225k to 265k Ohms which
is much better than a large number of the
Fender branded CTS potentiometers where I've
seen some samples as low as 180k and as high
as 290k Ohms. But for the most part
when it comes to deviation from the
specified rating (tolerance) I usually find
the actual resistance value is lower than
the specification rating rather than being
higher...
Another factor that
contributes to variations in a pickups DC
resistance reading is temperature.
This is probably something that is most
often overlooked, and most would not even
consider. We can pull a pickup off the shelf
in the winter where the warehouse might be
as cold as 30-40 degrees F. and that pickup
could present us with a DC resistance that
may be as much as 400-500 ohms lower than
the same pickup that has thoroughly warmed
up and once again tested at room
temperature. You can actually watch
the ohm meters digital display that is
connected to a pickup that is cold and as it
slowly warms up its DC resistance climbs
higher and higher. So with temperature
differences factoring in, there really isn't
a true DC resistance, only close
approximations to the manufacturers
specified rating. It's all relative to the
testing environment/pickup temperature.
And of course for obvious reasons they will
also vary simply because any given sample of
pickup may be wound slightly more or less
than the next sample...
Update January 5, 2012:
With Fender introducing individual pickups
from all of their complete pickup sets in
late 2011 we have found that the
individually packaged Fat 50 neck pickups
are presenting us with higher than normal DC
resistances than what we usually see.
Fender advertises the Fat 50 neck pickup to
have a DC resistance of 6.0k. Testing every
single pickup for the last few years we
found the Fat 50 neck pickup from the
typical set of 3 would range from 6.0k to
6.45k, but now the newly introduced
individually boxed Fat 50 neck pickups have
presented us with DC resistances as high as
7.0k. We've just started using our stock of
these newly introduced individual Fat 50
neck pickups so we have yet to see how they
will average in DC resistance as we progress
through this new stock. Another
characteristic we found with "some" of these
individual Fat 50 neck pickups is that they
do not have the blue indicator on the pole
piece on the underside of the pickup, we
figure it must be because since they are
being sold individually there is no need to
identify which pickup is bridge middle or
neck since the pickup is packaged as the
neck position and only when you purchase the
entire set of 3 is it important to keep them
separated from one another so then they
would use the red and blue coloring to
identify the positions. We'll keep you
posted with any new findings on color coding
and DC resistances we encounter as we
install and test more of these.
Update January 11, 2012:
We've begun to notice a new trend with the
Custom Shop Custom '69 pickups now that
Abigail Ybarra is no longer inspecting or
supervising the production of these pickups.
First thing is that since she is no longer
inspecting or supervising the production of
these pickups they are no longer dated
and initialed by her, but the more important
change we've seen is that the average DC
resistance is higher than any we've
ever encountered in the last 3 years. Fender
rates this pickup to have DC resistance of
5.8k. If you look at the testing results
below the highest DC resistance from the
time period we compiled the data was 5.645k
and the average was 5.44k, and for the most
part we usually never encountered any that
had a DC resistance very close to the rated
value of 5.8k, they were usually lower. But
now with the current production Custom Shop
Custom '69 pickups we've begun encountering
DC resistances as high as 6.42k and this is
at room temperature of 70 degrees with
measurements taken with a calibrated Fluke
77IV meter. So on average that relates
to approximately 1k (1000 ohms) difference,
that's quite a bit and I'm sure it will
influence the character of this pickup.
All resistance values
below are in
Kilo-Ohms (x 1000) unless otherwise noted.
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Test # |
Seymour Duncan
SSL-5
Bridge |
Fender
Custom Shop '69
Middle |
Fender
Custom Shop Fat '50s
Neck |
Bridge+Middle |
Neck+Middle |
Bridge+Neck |
Bridge+Middle+Neck |
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1 |
12.88 |
5.270 |
6.220 |
3.797 |
2.885 |
4.266 |
2.380 |
| 2 |
12.97 |
5.434 |
6.090 |
3.889 |
2.922 |
4.252 |
2.408 |
| 3 |
12.70 |
5.224 |
6.213 |
3.756 |
2.870 |
4.242 |
2.363 |
| 4 |
12.88 |
5.476 |
6.059 |
3.904 |
2.913 |
4.196 |
2.399 |
| 5 |
12.78 |
5.435 |
6.224 |
3.880 |
2.939 |
4.266 |
2.416 |
| 6 |
12.82 |
5.477 |
6.167 |
3.899 |
2.935 |
4.236 |
2.412 |
| 7 |
12.65 |
5.550 |
6.110 |
3.900 |
2.930 |
4.200 |
2.408 |
| 8 |
12.92 |
5.555 |
6.283 |
3.941 |
2.981 |
4.295 |
2.444 |
| 9 |
12.88 |
5.607 |
6.173 |
3.969 |
2.973 |
4.245 |
2.440 |
| 10 |
12.78 |
5.579 |
6.298 |
3.950 |
2.997 |
4.298 |
2.454 |
| 11 |
12.91 |
5.278 |
6.168 |
3.805 |
2.877 |
4.246 |
2.376 |
| 12 |
12.80 |
5.248 |
6.073 |
3.784 |
2.850 |
4.195 |
2.355 |
| 13 |
12.69 |
5.415 |
6.108 |
3.855 |
2.904 |
4.194 |
2.386 |
| 14 |
12.92 |
5.176 |
6.328 |
3.750 |
2.879 |
4.320 |
2.376 |
| 15 |
12.73 |
5.508 |
6.092 |
3.907 |
2.928 |
4.193 |
2.404 |
| 16 |
12.82 |
5.400 |
6.075 |
3.871 |
2.899 |
4.202 |
2.390 |
| 17 |
12.94 |
5.436 |
6.186 |
3.884 |
2.925 |
4.253 |
2.407 |
| 18 |
12.61 |
5.307 |
6.066 |
3.797 |
2.866 |
4.171 |
2.360 |
| 19 |
13.14 |
5.408 |
6.259 |
3.887 |
2.933 |
4.309 |
2.420 |
| 20 |
12.65 |
5.339 |
6.059 |
3.809 |
2.869 |
4.162 |
2.360 |
| 21 |
13.18 |
5.601 |
6.127 |
3.994 |
2.960 |
4.254 |
2.441 |
| 22 |
12.87 |
5.584 |
6.085 |
3.965 |
2.951 |
4.211 |
2.427 |
| 23 |
13.65 |
5.645 |
6.136 |
4.058 |
2.974 |
4.305 |
2.466 |
| 24 |
13.05 |
5.627 |
6.103 |
3.999 |
2.964 |
4.234 |
2.441 |
| 25 |
13.01 |
5.542 |
6.158 |
3.949 |
2.951 |
4.252 |
2.430 |
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12.89k Avg. |
5.44k Avg. |
6.15k
Avg. |
3.89k Avg. |
2.92k Avg. |
4.24k Avg. |
2.41k Avg. |
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12.61k Low |
5.224k Low |
6.059k Low |
3.75k
Low |
2.85k
Low |
4.162k
Low |
2.36k Low |
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13.65k High |
5.645k High |
6.328k High |
4.058k
High |
2.981k
High |
4.32k
High |
2.466k High |
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1040 Ohm
Variance |
421 Ohm
Variance |
269 Ohm Variance |
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322.23 Tot. |
136.121 Tot. |
153.86 Tot. |
97.199 Tot. |
73.075 Tot. |
105.997 Tot. |
60.163 Tot. |
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Manufacturer Rating
12.9k |
Manufacturer Rating
5.8k |
Manufacturer Rating
6.0k |
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1466
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